First of all I would like to thank Eric Andreasen who
is the husband of Liz Andreasen for the way he always
treated me at Libertarian Party meetings in Phoenix and Tempe.
Eric Andreasen simply refused to talk to me at all. I never asked Eric Andreasen why he hated me but I always thought he was a deeply religious guy who hated me because I an atheist. I made the incorrect assumption that Eric Andreasen hated me because he was a deeply religious guy. I thought that because he always used to wear one of those Jewish hats. I think the hats are called yarmulkes, skullcaps or kippahs. |
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Eric & Liz don't hate atheists Mark & Jennifer Horning |
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At the last meeting of the Arizona Libertarian Party before
we disbanded I was quite surprised to find out that
Liz and Eric Andreasen hung out with Mark Horning who
is an atheist like me.
That really confused me. Why did Eric Andreasen hate me because I was an atheist but he didn't hate Mark and Jennifer Horning who were also atheists? Of course I didn't find out the answer to that question until Ernie Hancock told me that David Dorn was telling people lies that I was a government snitch. Of course then the light bulb went off in my head and I figured out that Eric Andreasen hated me because he thought I was a government snitch. |
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Eric Andreasen isn't a hypocrite |
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Why did I like it because Eric Andreasen refused to talk to me?
Well because at least he was honest about hating me.
That is what I would have done.
If I thought somebody was a government snitch I would have also refused to talk to them. I don't play games with people and pretend to like them. If I dislike somebody I will refuse to deal with them. I certainly am not a hypocrite who will pretend to like somebody when I hate them. Of course that leads up to Liz Andreasen. I always though Liz Andreasen like me. It wasn't till Ernie Hancock told me that David Dorn was telling people lies that I was a government snitch that I figured out Liz Andreasen almost certainly hates me. She almost certainly thinks I am a government snitch like her husband Eric. |
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1998 Washington D.C. Libertarian Convention |
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Which leads up to that rather strange conversation
with Liz Andreasen at the 1998 Libertarian Party Convention
which occured on July 1-5.
Normally both Liz and Eric Andreasen always are each carrying a concealed weapon. Of course in Arizona that is legal. The Arizona government hasn't flushed the 2nd Amendment down the toilet as much as they have in other states. But this was in the nations capitol of Washington, D.C. which is a full blown police state. In Washington D.C. it is pretty much illegal for anybody except government rulers to have guns. At the convention in Washington D.C. I was rather surprised when Liz Andreasen started this conversation with me and told me that because Washington D.C. was a police state that Eric Andreasen had left his gun back and Phoenix. But to protect themselves Liz was packing the gun. Liz went on to say that they figure since she was a woman that the D.C. cops wouldn't harass her. I wanted to tell Liz that if she was smart she should keep her mouth shut and never tell anybody that she was committing a crime. After all what is a pig over heard her say that. She would probably be arrested on the spot. Of course it wouldn't be until a few years after that when Ernie Hancock told me that David Dorn was telling people lies that I was a government snitch that I figured out why Liz had that weird conversation with me about her guns in Washington D.C. I am certain that Liz told me what she was illegally carrying a gun because she figure I was a government snitch that I would turn her into the Washington D.C. police. Of course I am not a government snitch and I didn't turn in Liz Andreasen to the Washington D.C. police. Even though I didn't know it at the time that David Dorn was spreading around lies that I was government snitch you would figure that the fact that I didn't turn Liz Andreasen into the D.C. cops would have told those people I wasn't a snitch. But I guess they are not too bright and didn't figure it out. |
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Liz said I can't be trusted? |
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Now lets fast forward back to the last Arizona
Libertarian Party meeting which was held in
Phoenix at the China Village Restaurant.
That was when Tom Rawles told us he didn't want to continue to represent the ALP in lawsuit against ALP Inc. ALP won the case in the initial court ruling. ALP Inc. appealed that ruling and won in the appeals court. At that point in time ALP could have appealed the case to the Arizona Supreme Court. But John Buttrick could no longer be our lawyer because he had been appointed to be a judge by Governor Jane Hull. Tom Rawls who had dropped out of the Libertarian Party and went back to being a Republican told us he didn't want to continue working on the case. So we voted to disband the Arizona Libertarian Party at that meeting and that was the last Libertarian Party meeting I every went to1. At the end of that meeting while we were talking out side Liz Andreasen said something to the effect that she didn't want to talk around me because "I couldn't be trusted". That kind of made me feel bad. I didn't know why Liz said that "I couldn't be trusted". Of course I had no ideal at the time that David Dorn was spreading lies around that I was a government snitch. If I had know that it would have been perfectly obvious why Liz said that "I couldn't be trusted". Of course I would find that out for a couple more years when Ernie Hancock told me that David Dorn was telling people lies that I was a government snitch. I also attended a meeting that one of the ALP Inc. leaders put on where some cops from LEAP spoke. LEAP stands for Law Enforcement Against Prohibition and it is a group of police officers who think the drug war is a dismal failure and that drugs should be legalized or decriminalize. |
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Why didn't I attend any ALP Inc. meetings |
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You would figure that if
David Dorn
was telling the
truth about me being a government snitch that I would
have also attended the
ALP Inc.
meetings.
But I NEVER attended an ALP Inc. meeting before the ALP disbanded1. And even after ALP disbanded I only attended one of there local meetings which was when atheist Charlie Smith asked me to attend a meeting with him. If I was a government snitch, like David Dorn says I would have attended ALL the ALP Inc. meetings in addition to the ALP meetings. |
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I am still VERY angry with David Dorn |
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It has been 10 years since I found out that
David Dorn
was spreading lies around that I am a government snitch
and I am still pretty angry.
For that matter I am a lot angrier now then I was 10 years ago. David Dorn's lies have destroyed my life and caused to be labeled a snitch. I am also very angry because I have never found out exactly what lies David Dorn is telling people about me. Neither David Dorn or Ernie Hancock has had to guts to tell me what the lies are that David Dorn has been spreading around about me.
Notes: 1 - I did attend one ALP Inc meeting after that. That was when my atheist friend Charlie Smith wanted to attend a Libertarian party meeting and asked me to meet him there. I also attended two ALP Inc. state Conventions. At the first ALP Inc. convention I went with Tim McDermit and Ricky Duncan because we wanted to prevent Peter Schmerl from becoming the leader of the new ALP Inc. I attended a 2nd ALP Inc. state convention because I was delusional and hoped that things could return to the old way that ALP used to do things. That was a mistake. |